There must be room for the shoulders

Peter Horobin Geneva


Normally we always see saddles from the side. I think it might be fun to see several different models, from the front. By seeing the saddle from the front, you get an idea of how the horse should be built in order to fit a given saddle. There is nothing wrong with any of these saddles. They should just be able to fit the horse they should lie on.

When you look at the pictures, you can see that they vary between two shapes, a reverse V and a reverse U. If you click on the pictures, you can see the brand.

The first saddle in the gallery is a Peter Horobin Geneva (PH), it is the saddle that fits our horses. Knowing this, it is easy to imagine that none of the other saddles could be used for just our horses. The PH saddle is much wider in the area around the withers than the other saddles. In contrast, some of the other saddles are wider further down.

Above the ph and Isabell saddles are seen next to each other. One is very wi de at the top and narrow further down. The other is narrow at the top, but wider further down.

It is very easy to imagine that it would be impossible to get Isabell to become just as wide at the top as the ph saddle. It is not possible, no matter how wide a gullet I put in it.

But why is it so important that there is enough room around the wither.

The horse's shoulder rotates backwards when the horse moves and there must be room for that. It is therefore said that there should be room for 2 -3 fingers all around the wither, not only at the top. If there is not, then there is no room for the shoulder to be able to rotate back. The horse will be restricted in its movement.

Noller in trot. Notice how much space there is for his shoulder.

Noller in trot. is a notice of how much space there is to his shoulder.

There are of course many things that need to be taken into account in connection with getting a saddle that fits. For me and the horses, however, th e biggest problem has been to find something that gave enough room for their shoulders.

Are our horses so special?

No, I don't really think they are. What is perhaps a little special is that they are very wide around the wither. And none of them have holes behind the shoulders, its almost the opposite.

I think that very many horses go with saddles that give too little room for the shoulders.

What happens if there is not enough room for the shoulders?

Some horses will not go forward. Other stresses and is hard to get to relax. Some will start to stumble. They will not stretch, they try, but quickly lift their heads up again. They move short and stiff in their movements. It becomes almost impossible for them to work over their backs.

When the horse lifts his back, it fills even more in the area around the Wither. Therefore, there must be a great space if the horse shall be able to work with a raised back.

Here you can see how much space the saddle gives to Stacias shoulders.

Here you can see how much space the saddle gives to Stacias shoulders.

Many horses have saddles that fit the area just behind the shoulders. If the horse is not filled with muscle in the area then you get trouble with such a saddle. For even if the horse is hollowed behind the shoulders, the shoulders still require the same space when they rotate back.

Is it the saddles that make the horse lose muscles behind the shoulders

It could easily be.

Very many horses have no muscles behind the shoulders. They almost go in, there are pockets. It is almost more common to see horses that look like this, compared to horses that are filled with muscles.

Whether it's the training or the saddles, there's something wrong with, it can be difficult to figure out. There are not many who understand how to get their horses to work properly over their backs. And it's not easy to find saddles that are really wide enough around the wither. It could be a combination.

I hope the pictures have given some food for thought. And perhaps a little clarity about what might possibly be the problem with your saddle.